tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post6153618606192699528..comments2023-05-29T09:56:45.316+01:00Comments on Glamorgan Moth Recording Group: Copper Underwing queryVC41Mothshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17263945533123756002noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post-24073774535319620102017-08-21T12:02:06.780+01:002017-08-21T12:02:06.780+01:00I find the palps are a useful guide (but not 100%)...I find the palps are a useful guide (but not 100%) - check u/w too. Light palps - 2297 (pyramidea) & dark palps 2298 (berbera). Not sure, use agg. CU/w-SCU/W.DRWGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13636173970831048193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post-66167889059738619392017-08-20T16:53:31.926+01:002017-08-20T16:53:31.926+01:00Thanks all. The first Copper Underwing that I can ...Thanks all. The first Copper Underwing that I can be sure of .Howard Burthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15140736388789494773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post-1095088196536201732017-08-14T09:27:35.861+01:002017-08-14T09:27:35.861+01:00I'm also happy with Copper for this one, based...I'm also happy with Copper for this one, based mainly on the underside of the hindwings.VC41Mothshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263945533123756002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post-90237110410924117332017-08-12T20:14:35.390+01:002017-08-12T20:14:35.390+01:00I think there was a paper a few years ago suggesti...I think there was a paper a few years ago suggesting the markings on the palps aren't 100% reliable for separating the two. I must admit I only really use the underside hindwing markings - much more contrasting in Copper Underwing than Svensson's. See:<br /><br />http://perhoset.perhostutkijainseura.fi/historia/amphipyrinae/maaritys/amp-pyram-berb-maaritys-alap.jpg<br /><br />Yours looks spot on for Copper Underwing to me.GMThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759152282751126808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553355011221187801.post-27460039261316254882017-08-12T18:18:59.548+01:002017-08-12T18:18:59.548+01:00Howard - the general pale colour of the underside ...Howard - the general pale colour of the underside of the palps suggest copper u/w to me. With Svensson`s copper u/w, it`s only the very tips that are contrastingly pale. Excellent photos, as always.Ian Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07197132818965237430noreply@blogger.com